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		<title>Hardy, Java and crashing applications</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hannes</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Following up my problem description in my last post, I tried to get Eclipse (and other crashing Java applications) running with the Java 6 version that is shipped with Hardy.
The changelog of the packages sun-java-* (version 6.06) claims that the locking problems with XCB have been fixed upstream:

* New upstream bug fix release.
  - [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Following up my problem description in my last post, I tried to get Eclipse (and other crashing Java applications) running with the Java 6 version that is shipped with Hardy.</p>
<p>The changelog of the packages sun-java-* (version 6.06) claims that the locking problems with XCB have been fixed upstream:</p>
<pre>
* New upstream bug fix release.
  - Release notes at http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/ReleaseNotes.html.
  - Fixes Xlib/XCB locking problems. LP: #86103. Closes: #414535.
</pre>
<p>But this is not the case, at least not for me.</p>
<p>Googling the problem showed a few potential workarounds, like</p>
<pre>
export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true
</pre>
<p>and</p>
<pre>
sed -i 's/XINERAMA/FAKEEXTN/g' /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386/libawt.so
</pre>
<p>Neither of them worked. So I&#8217;m back with Java 6 from Gutsy, which just works fine on Hardy.</p>
<p>I wonder whether I am the only one with these problems&#8230; are they going to release Hardy with a broken Java/XCB combination?</p>
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		<title>Upgrade to Hardy</title>
		<link>http://electricbum.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/upgrade-to-hardy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hannes</dc:creator>
		
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		<category><![CDATA[eclipse]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I updated to my Ubuntu system to version 8.04 &#8220;Hard Heron&#8221; RC. It&#8217;s a release candidate, so there won&#8217;t be many changes until the &#8220;real&#8221; release in a few days.
The upgrade process itself went through without any problems, but I had to fix a few things which did not work anymore after the upgrade. There [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I updated to my Ubuntu system to version <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc" target="_blank">8.04 &#8220;Hard Heron&#8221; RC</a>. It&#8217;s a release candidate, so there won&#8217;t be many changes until the &#8220;real&#8221; release in a few days.</p>
<p>The upgrade process itself went through without any problems, but I had to fix a few things which did not work anymore after the upgrade. There was:</p>
<ul>
<li>Applications using GL kept crashing themselves (like fgl_glxgears) or the whole X-server (like Google Earth).</li>
</ul>
<blockquote><p>Not good. It turned out that my fglrx installation was somehow broken, Ubuntu even told me that I&#8217;m not using any proprietary drivers. So I downloaded the new <a href="http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html" target="_blank">8.4 release of fglrx</a>, baked my own debs and installed them.</p>
<p>Nothing crashed, but the applications refused to start because of missing library: libGL.so.1. This might indicate a slightly broken fglrx package creation for Hardy. Anyway, a symbolic link solved the problem.</p>
<pre>ln -s /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1</pre>
</blockquote>
<ul>
<li>Eclipse kept crashing</li>
</ul>
<blockquote><p>Eclipse started, and during building the workspace, it always crashed. I tried without plugins, a fresh installation, etc, then I downgraded Java 6 to the version from Gutsy, and everything worked.</p>
<p>It was enough to pull the packages sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-jdk, sun-java6-jre, sun-java6-plugin and sun-java6-source out of the <a href="http://packages.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu archives</a> and install them. To make Ubuntu&#8217;s update notifier stop bugging me about the existing newer packges (which I just downgraded) I set them all on hold via</p>
<pre>echo {$packagename} hold | dpkg --set-selections</pre>
<p>The problem might be connected to libxcb and libmawt, because instead of a crashing VM I sometimes get the following messages:</p>
<pre>
Locking assertion failure.  Backtrace:
#0 /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0 [0xb7d00767]
#1 /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0(xcb_xlib_unlock+0&#215;31) [0xb7d008b1]
#2 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6(_XReply+0xfd) [0x903d91bd]
#3 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.03/jre/lib/i386/xawt/libmawt.so
&#8230;
</pre>
<p>I remember having had some similar problems in Gutsy (or was it Feisty?). I will look into this when I&#8217;ve got some more time.</p></blockquote>
<ul>
<li>Firefox 3 does not support old add-ons</li>
</ul>
<blockquote><p>The default browser in Hardy is Firefox 3 (there is still packages will Firefox 2 if you want to). That&#8217;s good and bad. It&#8217;s good because it feels more lightweight and JavaScript-heavy sites feel much more responsive. It&#8217;s bad because it&#8217;s still a Beta (I already experienced a few crashes) and because some popular extensions like del.icio.us Bookmarks are still not compatible with the new version.</p>
<p>To keep it simple, I added the following boolean setting to the configuration (<a href="config">about:config</a>):</p>
<pre>extensions.checkCompatibility = false</pre>
<p>This will give you a warning inside the Add-ons window, but most of the officially incompatible extensions will work after that.</p></blockquote>
<p>No other problems with the new version so far. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Conzilla and Collaborilla go REST</title>
		<link>http://electricbum.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/conzilla-and-collaborilla-go-rest/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hannes</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[I just released Conzilla 2.2.2  together with Collaborilla 1.1. The biggest improvement of these versions is the switch to RESTful web services, which makes it finally possible to access Collaborilla even in very restrictive networks - the new services use standard HTTP port 80 which shouldn&#8217;t be a problem anymore. To make the picture [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I just released <a href="http://www.conzilla.org/wiki/Overview/Release222" title="Conzilla 2.2.2 Release Notes" target="_blank">Conzilla 2.2.2</a>  together with <a href="http://collaborilla.conzilla.org">Collaborilla</a> 1.1. The biggest improvement of these versions is the switch to RESTful web services, which makes it finally possible to access Collaborilla even in very restrictive networks - the new services use standard HTTP port 80 which shouldn&#8217;t be a problem anymore. To make the picture complete, I also added support for HTTP proxies, so there is no excuse anymore for not being able to use Conzilla.</p>
<p class="vspace">The noteworthy changes since version 2.2.1:</p>
<ul>
<li>Support for Collaborilla 1.1 and the new <span class="wikiword">RESTful</span> web services</li>
<li>Support for connections through HTTP proxies</li>
<li>Possibility to conditionally empty the disk caches</li>
<li>Fix for problem on <span class="wikiword">MacOS</span> which prevented to open <span class="wikiword">URLs</span> in web browsers</li>
<li>Fixed some <span class="wikiword">NullPointerExceptions</span></li>
</ul>
<p>Go and <a href="http://www.conzilla.org/wiki/Download/Main" title="Conzilla Download and Installation" target="_blank">get it</a>. Or if you already have an older version: just launch it via Java Web Start, the upgrade should then take place automatically.</p>
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		<title>Linux Poll by Lenovo</title>
		<link>http://electricbum.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/linux-poll-by-lenovo/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lenovo, producer of the great ThinkPad laptops, is asking for our opinion, so go and vote for your favorite distribution:
Inside the Box: Linux Follow Up
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Lenovo, producer of the great ThinkPad laptops, is asking for our opinion, so go and vote for your favorite distribution:</p>
<p><a href="http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98" title="Linux Follow Up">Inside the Box: Linux Follow Up</a></p>
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		<title>Finally upgraded to Gutsy</title>
		<link>http://electricbum.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/finally-upgraded-to-gutsy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hannes</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[I finally did it. Everything went fine, except for the proprietary ATI/AMD fglrx graphics driver and the related x.org setup. To get suspend to work I had to upgrade to the latest fglrx driver. After this the UI felt pretty slow, much slower than it was before the upgrade. OpenOffice.org Impress was almost unusable, it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I finally did it. Everything went fine, except for the proprietary ATI/AMD fglrx graphics driver and the related x.org setup. To get suspend to work I had to upgrade to the latest fglrx driver. After this the UI felt pretty slow, much slower than it was before the upgrade. OpenOffice.org Impress was almost unusable, it took about 5 seconds for a slide change.</p>
<p>The problem consisted of two parts, one was that cpufreqd was slowing down my CPU. I didn&#8217;t have it installed before, so I removed it. I&#8217;m relying on the ondemand governor anyway. Then I also added the following options to the device settings in my xorg.conf:</p>
<blockquote>
<pre>Option	"XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"
Option	"AccelMethod"	"XAA"</pre>
</blockquote>
<p>No my X is as fast as before, I even gained a bit of 3D performance with the new fglrx drivers.</p>
<p>Suspend and wake up works also after I set the following options in /etc/default/acpi-support:</p>
<blockquote>
<pre>SAVE_VBE_STATE=false
POST_VIDEO=false</pre>
</blockquote>
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		<title>Conzilla 2.2 released</title>
		<link>http://electricbum.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/conzilla-22-released/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hannes</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The Conzilla team is proud to announce the release of Conzilla 2.2.
This is a usability release for improving the user experience and making it easier to perform collaborative conceptual modeling.
The major improvements since version 2.1 are:

Undo/redo functionality in edit mode.
Advanced logging for improved user feedback.
Improved &#8220;Offline mode&#8221;.
Keyboard shortcuts for most important editing actions.
Various improvements for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>The Conzilla team is proud to announce the release of <a href="http://www.conzilla.org/wiki/Overview/Release22" title="Conzilla 2.2 Release Notes" target="_blank">Conzilla 2.2</a>.</p>
<p>This is a usability release for improving the user experience and making it easier to perform collaborative conceptual modeling.</p>
<p>The major improvements since version 2.1 are:</p>
<ul>
<li>Undo/redo functionality in edit mode.</li>
<li>Advanced logging for improved user feedback.</li>
<li>Improved &#8220;Offline mode&#8221;.</li>
<li>Keyboard shortcuts for most important editing actions.</li>
<li>Various improvements for editing single concepts and their relations to context-maps and sessions.</li>
<li>Context-Map metadata files (.ccm) and associated mime-type for easy opening of context-maps.</li>
<li>Support for importing collaboration settings from files, makes initial installation easier.</li>
<li>Announcements to the <a href="http://www.sindice.com" title="Sindice semantic indexer" target="_blank">Sindice semantic indexer</a> when publishing context-maps or contributions.</li>
<li>&#8220;Source view&#8221; for viewing a context-map in RDF.</li>
<li>Multi-threaded loading of context-maps resulting in smoother surfing.</li>
<li>Various improvements in the session manager.</li>
<li>New status bar with information on context-maps.</li>
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<p>&#8230; and many more bugfixes and new features, see the automatically generated <a href="http://kmr.nada.kth.se/mantis/changelog_page.php?project_id=1" title="Conzilla Change Log" target="_blank">change log of our bugtracker</a> for details!</p>
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		<title>PhD student position in Media Technology</title>
		<link>http://electricbum.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/phd-student-position-in-media-technology/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hannes</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The School for Computer Science and Communication at the Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) has an open position for a doctoral student in the department of Media Technology and Graphic Arts, with a focus on research related to new social media.
There is information in swedish and in english online.
       [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>The <a href="http://www.csc.kth.se" target="_blank">School for Computer Science and Communication</a> at the <a href="http://www.kth.se" target="_blank">Royal Institute of Technology (KTH)</a> has an open position for a doctoral student in the <a href="http://www.csc.kth.se/forskning/medieteknik/" target="_blank">department of Media Technology and Graphic Arts</a>, with a focus on research related to new social media.</p>
<p>There is information <a href="http://www.kth.se/aktuellt/tjanster/2/ShowAdd.aspx?ID=110732" target="_blank">in swedish</a> and <a href="http://www.kth.se/aktuellt/2.1445/1.15093?l=en_UK">in english</a> online.</p>
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		<title>Strange statement of Nokia regarding codecs</title>
		<link>http://electricbum.wordpress.com/2007/12/10/strange-statement-of-nokia-regarding-codecs/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;[...] including a W3C-lead standardization of a “free” codec, or the active endorsement of proprietary technology such as Ogg, …, by W3C, is, in our opinion, not helpful for the co-existence of the two ecosystems (web and video), and herefore not our choice.&#8221;
Why would it be &#8220;not helpful&#8221; to standardize a free codec? And why [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><em>&#8220;[...] including a W3C-lead standardization of a “free” codec, or the active endorsement of proprietary technology such as Ogg, …, by W3C, is, in our opinion, not helpful for the co-existence of the two ecosystems (web and video), and herefore not our choice.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Why would it be &#8220;not helpful&#8221; to standardize a free codec? And why do they call it proprietary?</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/08/video/positions/Nokia.pdf" title="Nokia statement to the W3C" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/2007/08/video/positions/Nokia.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>WebDAV library Jakarta Slide discontinued</title>
		<link>http://electricbum.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/webdav-library-jakarta-slide-discontinued/</link>
		<comments>http://electricbum.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/webdav-library-jakarta-slide-discontinued/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hannes</dc:creator>
		
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		<category><![CDATA[apache]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[The Apache Jakarta subproject Slide does not exist anymore. After several years of bugfixing only, the project has been stopped and recommends to switch over to other libraries like Jackrabbit.
I introduced Slide a while ago to Conzilla for accessing the WebDAV/SVN data store used by the  Collaborilla collaboration server. I was not very happy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>The Apache Jakarta subproject <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/slide/">Slide</a> does not exist anymore. After several years of bugfixing only, the project has been stopped and <a href="http://www.apachenews.org/archives/001078.html">recommends to switch</a> over to other libraries like <a href="http://jackrabbit.apache.org">Jackrabbit</a>.</p>
<p>I introduced Slide a while ago to <a href="http://www.conzilla.org" target="_blank">Conzilla</a> for accessing the WebDAV/SVN data store used by the  <a href="http://collaborilla.conzilla.org">Collaborilla</a> collaboration server. I was not very happy with the spartan info I got out of some exceptions  (some messages were just &#8220;null&#8221;), the documentation was a bit holey as well. At that time I thought of using Jackrabbit, not just as a WebDAV-client, but as a complete replacement for the LDAP/WebDAV/SVN combination. I like the concept of a real content repository, and that&#8217;s exactly what Jackrabbit is: an open source reference implementation of <a href="http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=170">JCR 170</a>.</p>
<p>The next release of Collaborilla will contain major changes, I think it will even be an almost complete rewrite. I don&#8217;t know yet whether the backend will be a traditional DBMS or a content repository, but I already know which library is not going to be used anymore.</p>
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		<title>Gmail&#8217;s IMAP, flags and message threads</title>
		<link>http://electricbum.wordpress.com/2007/11/06/gmails-imap-flags-and-message-threads/</link>
		<comments>http://electricbum.wordpress.com/2007/11/06/gmails-imap-flags-and-message-threads/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hannes</dc:creator>
		
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		<category><![CDATA[gmail]]></category>

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		<category><![CDATA[threading]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Just tried the newly released Gmail IMAP with the Thunderbird mail client. I&#8217;m pretty happy with it (I only had 60MB mail space before I transferred everything to my Gmail account), but&#8230;

There is no support for the &#8220;answered&#8221; flag (or similar ones like &#8220;forwarded&#8221;) yet. This means that I don&#8217;t see small indicators that are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Just tried the newly released Gmail IMAP with the Thunderbird mail client. I&#8217;m pretty happy with it (I only had 60MB mail space before I transferred everything to my Gmail account), but&#8230;</p>
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<li>There is no support for the &#8220;answered&#8221; flag (or similar ones like &#8220;forwarded&#8221;) yet. This means that I don&#8217;t see small indicators that are telling me whether I replied to or forwarded a message. I hope this feature will be added soon. Google has a <a href="http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78761&amp;topic=12762" title="Does Gmail support all IMAP features?" target="_blank">list of all unsupported IMAP features</a>.</li>
<li>I want to see my own replies in message threads. When I reply to a message, I usually send a BCC to myself (this is done automatically on most mailing lists) to make sure that I know what I was writing about even if I&#8217;m not correctly quoted. The weird thing is that this works very well in the web interface (I do see my own replies), but not in IMAP (my own replies are not shown; I&#8217;m using the same folder/label as in the web interface). Does anybody have an explanation for this?</li>
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